Podcast
Resilience Over Fragmentation: The Risk You Can’t Ignore
The internet promised freedom. Now it monetizes you. The trade-off? Convenience for control.
In this episode, Lieuwe Jan Koning and Prof. Jacobs reveal how scattered tools like meta and X create security gaps—and how one policy, fewer interfaces, and less data shared cut exposure and keep operations running.
Real examples you’ll hear:
• The neighborhood chat stuck on WhatsApp—and how switching to Signal breaks dependency.
• How your address book upload leaks other people’s data to platforms.
• Why secure doesn’t mean private on platforms that profit from your data.
• Age checks done right: passport chip + selective disclosure instead of oversharing.
• Patient groups and municipalities using PubHubs for private, verified rooms (no ads).
• Continuity risk in the real world: federated login outages, US-dependent authenticators, transatlantic cable cuts, and a court moving email to ProtonMail to stay operational.
Timestamps
00:00 – Free vs. monetized internet
02:22 – Facebook: secure ≠ private
05:31 – WhatsApp vs. Signal trade-offs
07:05 – Metadata & social graph risk
11:58 – Attribute-based auth (Yi)
19:55 – Decentralized login; split keys
28:11 – PubHubs: private, verified rooms
49:54 – Continuity: vendor/cable risk
56:01 – Close & takeaways
Related ON2IT Content & Referenced Resources
• ON2IT: https://on2it.net/
• Threat Talks: https://threat-talks.com/
• AMS-IX: https://www.ams-ix.net/ams
• Yivi (privacy-preserving authentication): https://yivi.app/
• PubHubs (privacy-first social platform): https://pubhubs.net/
• European alternatives: http://european-alternative.eu/
• Privacy tools: https://privacytools.io/
Guest and Host Links:
Lieuwe Jan Koning (ON2IT Co-Founder): https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieuwejan/
Bart Jacobs: http://www.cs.ru.nl/~bart/
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